Germanshepherdluver
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Domieyes
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| | 06/09/2007 5:56 PM |
| I would say ,,,,,, find them a good home and dont worry about "SELLING" them and in the meantime go get your female spayed so u dont end up in the same place in a few mths again sorry if i'm not much help  Just make sure to check out the person u would be giving them too  | | | |
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MindOverMatter
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| | 06/09/2007 6:36 PM |
| | I agree with Domieyes on this one! Why sell the pups why not place them in good homes? if you took them to the pound you would not get any money for them anyway.
and please spay and neuter your dogs.. Evidently your dogs are not the type of quality that people are looking for or you would not have this problem placing you puppies. Usually Ethical breeders have a waiting list for thier puppies BEFORE their female is bred.
here is somethign that is posted on my website..http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Fair/1901/chart.html | | | |
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Germanshepherdluver
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| | 06/09/2007 8:35 PM |
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booshuman
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| | 06/09/2007 10:44 PM |
| | Have you thought about contacting your local police department and selling or donating them to be trained for police work?
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MindOverMatter
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| | 06/11/2007 8:43 PM |
| | ok shaking my head here ... you breed dogs for a living ?
and one of the dogs you have has CHs behind them in the ped?
I show my dogs and i know many people that put the work , TIME and MONEY, into their dogs to prove that they are breeding quality. No one that i know that is in it to improve the breed makes "a living" at breeding dogs.
Usually by the time all the tiles are acieved and the health testing done on both parents most are lucky to break even.
I have dogs that have pleanty of CH and GRCH dogs in their peds that doesn't make them breeding quality dogs.
you can do what you want with your dogs...
Personally I think there are enough dogs and puppies in the world as it is from people that are just breeding dogs to breed them. | | | |
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angeltrainer
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| | 06/11/2007 10:13 PM |
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Regarding what Mindovermatter had to say:
I understand your point - it took tons of work/time to title, win trials with, and core class my female GSD. But, I must respectfully add that I know of 2 breeders - one of German line GSDs and one of Belgian Malinois - who both care deeply about bettering their respective breeds and have managed to make a wonderful living doing so. Granted, they are rare, but they do exist.
And, another point - if we really want to consider truly bettering breeds, maybe we should take a close look at our lovely AKC - what it has done to the German Shepherd is disgraceful - what it considers to be a GSD is a mere shadow of what Max von Stephanitz (I know I'm probably spelling his name wrong) intended. | | | |
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Domieyes
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| | 06/12/2007 8:26 AM |
| I'm just throwing this out there But germanshep you say that your MALE has 5 CH behind him but nothing about the female . So why don't U spay the female and just Stud the male out ?? That way u would still be getting the moeny But not have to worry about placing the pups.And u wouldn't have to be in the same place again if next litter you can't find people to buy them again Just thought i would throw that out there  | | | |
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adoptapittie
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| | 06/13/2007 9:56 AM |
| | Do you have any idea what will happen to the pups if you take them to a shelter? If they don't get parvo, or don't get adopted then they will be euthanized after sitting in a dirty gross shelter. Contact a german shepard rescue and see if they will take the dogs. In the meantime if you can't breed responsibly why breed? The fact that you continuously refer to making money and "selling" dogs even recommending to others that they can stud their dog to make money leads me to belive you are not truly in this for the betterment of a breed but just to line your pockets. It's sad to me that you would so callously consider bringing these poor babies that YOU chose to bring into this world to a pound because they aren't making YOU money. | | | |
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Germanshepherdluver
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| | 06/15/2007 10:18 PM |
| | I have succesfully sold both female puppies and we have decided to keep the male pup and train him in obedience like his mother so that he can show in the fair this year. We named him Buddy because he loves to snuggle with you and never leaves my side. My female has been fixed but as i said the other female will stay as my beeding/ agility dog. My male stutzhound will only breed once a year with my female in the mean time they'll be my walking buddies. im sorry if i upset anyone or confused anyone by saying i make my living off them. The real reason i breed german shepherds is because i love the breed. And i will make sure to make my wording better next time so as to not confuse or upset anyone one again. Because i do work at a store and is still supported by family, money wise.I should have told you that i get alot of my money each year by selling pups. Not all of my money. Again I am sorry ifi upset or confused anyone. And thank you for your posts. | | | |
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jettasmom
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| | 06/16/2007 9:40 AM |
| | People like you (grmsheplovr) make me soooo mad. Does your female and male have certified hips,elbows. Are they within the standard that is set for GSD's. Do they have titles(working,obedience) Breeding should never be done to just make money. If you are a reputable breeder you would not be making money because the money you might make goes right back into taking care of new pups(shots,food,c-section if needed) training and titling costs alot too.
Take at look at the shepherd rescues you might find some of your pups there. I love the breed and people like you are ruining them. To many sheps are being put down because of poor temp,bad hips etc. I am sure you are contributing to that. Do the breed a favor and STOP breeding. | | | |
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allie1964
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| | 06/16/2007 9:56 AM |
| | "The real reason i breed german shepherds is because i love the breed." (Quote byGermanshepherdluver)
I love Golden Ret. and Border Collies (and of course mixed breeds) but I'm not going to breed them because of it. Loving the breed does not justify adding to the pet over-population. A reputable breeder would NEVER even consider dumping pups at a shelter. Do you take back your dogs if the new owners can't or won't keep them? Or do you tell them to take them to the shelter?
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Germanshepherdluver
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| | 06/16/2007 7:04 PM |
| | like i have said before, i dont breed just for the money.I do not take my dogs to the pound and i never will. Someone suggested it to me so i posted it to see what eveyone would say and from what i can see people are very much against it and so am i. I have dogs with checked hips and before i bought them we checked the dogs background. we do not sell sick puppies and we have never had an unhealthy puppy at that. If someone is unable to keep their puppy we do take them back and give the money back to the people. we have never once took them to the pound and it will never happen. If we do end up getting a puppy back we either keep it or try to find it a good home. I also look for he best temperment in a dog before buying it. My dogs are not mean or agressive in any way and i love them dearly. They are my best friends and that will never change. All the puppies have sold are in good homes. Some are rescue dogs and others are police dogs and even some are how dogs and i am very proud. That is another reason i breed german shepherds is because of the feeling i get when i hear that my puppies are happy and are doing great with their new families. So please understand that i do not breed just for the money and none of my dogs have or never will end up in a pound. | | | |
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| | 06/16/2007 7:45 PM |
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adoptapittie
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| | 06/22/2007 2:03 PM |
| | You couldn't possibly know where all your dogs puppies end up. Do you have the pups spayed and neutered before you sell them? How do you know whomever is buying them is not turning around and using them to populate an already overpopulated animal world? Do you follow every puppy adopted out for the rest of it's life to ensure that it hasn't been given away, or taken to a shelter or sold to someone else?
Do you screen the people you adopt to and do vet checks, references, and check public records for any criminal history? Do you homecheck people? I'm guessing probably not. | | | |
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Newfs
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| | 06/22/2007 5:27 PM |
| | I have 2 purebreed Newfs ( male & female), they both came from a very reputable breeder within the Newfoundland Club of America. The sire & dam of both dogs have had all their clearances and are champion bloodlines and show dogs. When I got my Newfs at 10 weeks old, they had all the clearances they could get as pups. Many people have asked me if I would breed them.... I WOULD NEVER have considered breeding my Newfs. When I bought them, I had to sign a very extensive contract with my breeder. Although there was nothing from stopping me from breeding my 2 AKC Newfs, my breeder did only give me a limited / co-owner registration, which clearly states that if I were to ever breed my Newfs, the litter would never be able to be AKC registered...I commend my breeder with her strict contract..... she has spent the last 25 years of her life working the best possible linage into her breeding program. The last thing she needs is her pup owners breeding her off-spring with other Newfs from god knows who...my male (at 1 year old) was nuetuted 2 years ago. My female ( 1 1/2 years old) was spayed last month....as odd as it sounds, most Vets incourage spays...he asked me twice if I was absouletely sure I wanted to have her spayed, he said he has never seen such a true to breed female Newf. She was spayed...... I have 2 Newfs that have always been in awesome health, tempermant and structure, and I 100% believe that is a direct result of the 25 years my breeder has devoted solely to the Newf Breed. | | | |
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